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+ Boost.Python+ +February 2002 Progress Report+ |
to_python/from_python
+ conversion mechanism
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+ Andy Koenig, of all people, was the keynote speaker of + this year's opening plenary session. He presented his + "impressions of a polyglot outsider", which + studiously avoided any mention of C++ until the end of his + talk, when he was asked about standardization. I was + surprised to learn that the C++ community at large wanted a + few more years before beginning but when ANSI accepted + HP's request for a standard, the process was forced to + start: it was a matter of participating or having + standardization proceed without one's input. Andy managed + to highlight very effectively the balance of strengths in + Python, one of the most important being its support for + extension via libraries. In many ways that makes Python a + good analogue for C++ in the interpreted world + +
There were several kind mentions of the Boost.Python + library from people who found it indispensable. I was + particularly happy that Karl MacMillan, Michael Droettboom, + and Ichiro Fujinaga from Johns Hopkins is using it to do OCR + on a vast library of music notation, since in a previous life + I was an author of music notation software. These guys are + also drawing on Ullrich Koethe's VIGRA library for image + manipulation (Ullrich has been a major contributor to + Boost.Python). They also have a system for writing the + Boost.Python wrapper code in C++ comments, which allows them + to keep all of the code in one place. I've asked them to + send me some information on that. + +
The development of Swig has been gaining momentum again + (the basic description at + www.boost.org/libs/python/doc/comparisons.html still + applies). The talk given about it by David Beazly was very + well-attended, and they appear to have quite a few users. + Swig's strengths (coverage of many langauages) and + weaknesses (incomplete C++ language support) haven't + changed, although the C++ support seems to have improved + considerably - they now claim to have a complete model of the + C++ type system. It seems to be mostly geared at wrapping + what Walter Landry calls "C-Tran": C++ code which + traffics in built-in types with little use of abstraction. + I'm not knocking that, either: I'm sure a lot of that + code exists, so it's a valuable service. One feature Swig + has which I'd like to steal is the ability to unwrap a + single Python argument into multiple C++ arguments, for + example, by converting a Python string into a pointer and + length. When his talk was over, David approached me about a + possible joint workshop on language binding, which sounds + like a fun idea to me. + +
I spent some considerable time talking with Steven Knight, + the leader of the Scons build tool effort. We had a lot to + share with one another, and I gained a much better + appreciation for many of the Scons design decisions. Scons + seems to be concentrating on being the ultimate build system + substrate, and Steve seemed to think that we were on the + right track with our high-level design. We both hope that the + Boost.Build V2 high-level architecture can eventually be + ported to run on top of Scons. + +
They also have a highly-refined and successful development + procedure which I'd like to emulate for Boost.Build V2. + Among many other things they do, their source-control system + automatically ensures that when you check in a new test, it + is automatically run on the currently checked-in state of the + code, and is expected to fail -- a relatively obvious good + idea which I've never heard before. + +
Guido Van Rossum's "State of the Python + Union" address was full of questions for the community + about what should be done next, but the one idea Guido seemed + to stress was that core language stability and continuing + library development would be a good idea (sound familiar?) I + mentioned the Boost model as a counterpoint to the idea of + something like CPAN (the massive Perl library archives), and + it seemed to generate some significant interest. I've + offered to work with anyone from the Python community who + wants to set up something like Boost. + +
There was some discussion of "string + interpolation" (variable substitution in strings), and + Guido mentioned that he had some thoughts about the + strengths/weaknesses of Python's formatting interface. It + might be useful for those working on formatting for boost to + contact him and find out what he has to say. + +
Ka-Ping Yee demoed a Mailman discussion thread weaver. + This tool weaves the various messages in a discussion thread + into a single document so you can follow the entire + conversation. Since we're looking very seriously at + moving Boost to Mailman, this could be a really useful thing + for us to have. If we do this, we'll move the yahoogroups + discussions into the mailman archive so old discussions can + be easily accessed in the same fashion. + +
And, just because it's cool, though perhaps not + relevant: http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~arigo/psyco/ is a + promising effort to accelerate the execution of Python code + to speeds approaching those of compiled languages. It + reminded me a lot of Todd Veldhuizen's research into + moving parts of C++ template compilation to runtime, only + coming from the opposite end of things. + +
My first priority upon returning from Python10 was to get + some documentation in place. After wasting an unfortunate + amount of time looking at automatic documentation tools which + don't quite work, I settled down to use Bill Kempf's + HTML templates designed to be a boost standard. While they + are working well, it is highly labor-intensive. + +
I decided to begin with the high-level reference material, + as opposed to tutorial, narrative, or nitty-gritty details of + the framework. It seemed more important to have a precise + description of the way the commonly-used components work than + to have examples in HTML (since we already have some test + modules), and since the low-level details are much + less-frequently needed by users it made sense for me to + simply respond to support requests for the time being. + +
After completing approximately 60% of the high-level docs + (currently checked in to libs/python/doc/v2), I found myself + ready to start documenting the mechanisms for creating + to-/from-python converters. This caused a dilemma: I had + realized during the previous week that a much simpler, + more-efficient, and easier-to-use implementation was + possible, but I hadn't planned on implementing it right + away, since what was already in place worked adequately. I + had also received my first query on the C++-sig about how to + write such a converter + +
Given the labor-intensive nature of documentation writing, + I decided it would be a bad idea to document the conversion + mechanism if I was just going to rewrite it. Often the best + impetus for simplifying a design is the realization that + understandably documenting its current state would be too + difficult, and this was no exception. + +
to_python/from_python conversion
+ mechanismThere were two basic realizations involved here: + +
to_python conversion could be a one-step
+ process, once an appropriate conversion function is found.
+ This allows elimination of the separate indirect
+ convertibility check
+
+ complex<double> or a Python tuple is
+ converted to a C++ std::vector<>. From
+ the client side, there are two corresponding categories of
+ conversion: those which demand an lvalue conversion and
+ those which can accept an lvalue or an rvalue conversion.
+ ++ This job included the following additional enhancements: + ++
++ Target Type + + Eligible Converters + + + T+ +Trvalue or lvalue + ++ T const+ ++ T volatile+ ++ T const volatile+ ++ T const&+ ++ T const*+ +Tlvalue + ++ T volatile*+ ++ T const volatile*+ ++ T&+ ++ T volatile&+ ++ T const volatile&+ ++ T* const&+ ++ T const* const&+ ++ T volatile*const&+ ++ T const volatile*const&+
Revised + + 4 April, 2002 + + + +
© Copyright Dave Abrahams + 2002. All Rights Reserved. +